Assisted reproductive technology (ART) involves multiple parties including egg donors, sperm donors, and surrogate mothers, with the process requiring egg splitting, embryo creation, and embryo transfer to surrogates, raising ethical questions about the status of fertilized eggs and the commodification of reproduction.
Surrogacy Ethics Debate: Dave Rubin's Family Choice Analyzed
Added:welcome to another reaction uh video today we're going to be responding to uh uh an explanation given to us uh uh the reuben report about um dave and david uh having a couple of kids by means of a method that they probably derive from c.s lewis's novel that hideous strength or inspired by things like that those are two different wombs and those are two different babies two different wombs yeah he says babies but two different wombs what we're talking about is concubines uh rented not not owned concubines but rented concubines i now i now know an awful lot about birth and i know an awful lot about zygotes and i know an awful lot about wombs and days when things start happening and heartbeat appointments and all kinds of stuff so basically what we are doing is we got one egg donor so you got to think about this if you need to stop right now and grab a sharpie and make a chart uh you could uh so basically we've got plenty of sperm around here that's that's one thing right so there's a lot something i'm just saying there's a lot of sperm we didn't have a shortage of sperm so we've got sperm so we had half the battle right we had half of what we needed but we needed an egg having sperm is not half the battle so there are egg donors that are out there these are young women who are willing to donate their eggs women and women obviously make a lot of eggs uh some make a lot of eggs some don't make eggs but the donors usually are young and healthy and and if they want to help people that otherwise can't have children they can donate their eggs so you basically go on all of these websites there are all these sites and it's sort of like tinder or whatever app you were dating on where you're just kind of swiping through people and you say oh i like the way she looks or i like this girl had a great education or some combination thereof so let me just interrupt here there will be other interruptions but that's what this is all about right interrupting uh look at that little bee down in the corner this is on the blaze uh the blaze champion of conservative values is platforming this gent who is talking about eugenics eugenics we swipe through we look like we're swiping through i like that look i like this eugenics is a bad deal and our feeling was that we wanted one egg donor meaning you get a whole bunch of eggs well hopefully you get a whole bunch of eggs from the egg donor and then we would take several you know we'd split the eggs so let's say you got i think the first time around we got like 18 eggs and then you take the sperm we would split them so now there's like nine and nine i'm giving you the rough estimates here um and you would then inseminate them and then you hopefully from that some of it takes some of it doesn't take but then in essence you have these embryos and then you need surrogates so let me fill in uh something he didn't mention let's say you split the eggs nine and nine you inseminate them some of it takes some of it doesn't take what do you do with the fertilized eggs that take but there's no room for them in the womb that you've rented what do you do some people they're they're called snowflake babies they're frozen and you wait for you know you've got these kids in the freezer for some future date or you wash them down the sink so let's let's say you've got nine and nine like he described i'm just gonna make some numbers up but let's say nine and nine let's say um four of them take two of them don't take okay four take two don't take and um and then what do you do what do you do with the ones that you don't have room for or the ones that take well the ones that take and don't have room for you just dispose of the ones that didn't take if it didn't work you're not dealing with a human being but every pro-lifer knows that the fertilized egg is a person do you wash them down in the sink and when someone arranges to do this and all the conservatives that you can think of all the mainstream conservatives rushed to congratulate dave and david for this appalling behavior what is it conservatives are conserving anymore so basically what we've got cooking here is that we have one baby that is from my stuff and one baby that is from david's stuff but they both will have the same biological mother and we wanted them to have that sort of genetic connection and right now there are two really fantastic women biological egg same biological egg donor two different surrogate mothers two different sperm donor fathers what are we talking about five people well yeah five people with some measure of a relationship or other and you know it's not an easy thing to be a surrogate this is not something people really do for money they do it for a higher purpose for sure or lower purpose depending on whether you've recognized how inverted your values are and we started going through the the process of how to do this and i can assure you that it is it is not cheap it is definitely easier if you got a man and a woman involved easier as though ease were the issue it's not easier with a man or woman it's natural with a man and a woman it's right with a man and a woman it's god designed with a man and a woman this monstrosity you know what was interesting also was that throughout the the surrogacy process um you know it was during covet so our the day we had to deposit the sperm and you can all figure out what that is you go to an office very clinical office and you go into a special room they leave you in there for 10 minutes you do your thing and then they take that how romantic basically they put it on ice and then they figure out when they're gonna you know connect it with the egg so to speak you know we had to move so once once we knew that the the first surrogate was pregnant we were just like let's just keep going because because who knows you know there there could be other miscarriages there you know just delays like covid could come back the doctors may want not want it like there's so many things so many things um i want you to notice this um thing at the bottom here crazy world sane views yeah but good labels nobody knows where to attach them we tried again and it worked so we've got these two these two babies on the way and uh you know uh people keep telling me i'm gonna make a great dad uh we shall see you know i've got a few more months of of freedom so we're gonna try to enjoy it as much as possible but i'm looking forward to the next chapter um but it is kind of funny the way people respond when you tell them because like we we're telling people and everyone's like oh my god you know you're gonna make a great dad and then it's also like you better have fun now this is it for you you had a hell of a run 45 years you did it you did whatever you wanted you were having fun all day oh yeah drinking your tequila making your steaks you think you can do whatever you want you know all right this is part of life it's part of life and obviously there's a whole bunch of goodness and stuff on the other side you can feel sorry for those kids now because the chances are pretty good that in 15 years you won't [Music] you
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